Mary Hillis interview – Ep 51

Mary Hillis, friend of Keagan’s and former Naval Farsi linguist / analyst, stops by the podcast to discuss her time in the Navy, her experiences with sexual harassment and toxic masculinity, and her assessment of the U.S.’s position with Iran.  Enjoy!


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“It’s naive and even irresponsible for a grownup today to get her or his information about foreign policy and war and peace exclusively from the administration in power. It’s essential to have other sources of information, to check those against one’s own common sense, and to form your own judgment as to whether we ought to go to or persist in war.” ~ Daniel Ellsberg

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